OnlineHost:	Julia Elliott has entered the room. 


Dearest:	My guest tonight is Power Surge's "Soy Source" - 
an expert in the area of phytoestrogens, an alternative means for 
replenishing our diminishing hormone levels. She's the author of 
two books on soy, "Beating Menopause & Early Ovarian Failure 
With The Help Of  1 Natural  Ingredient" and 
"With A Little Help From The Soybean."


Dearest:	It is my pleasure to welcome back to Power Surge ......
	        J U L I A      E L L I O T T


Dearest:      Julia Elliott has been an outspoken advocate of soy and natural 
means of coping with our menopausal issues.  Welcome back, Julia Elliott :) 
Let me begin by sharing the question I get asked most about 
phytoestrogens (and I'm sure you do, too) ... how much, and in what 
form, do we need to consume phytoestrogens in order to effect 
restored hormone levels?  Thanks :)


Julia Elliott: 	Thank you Dear and I thank everyone
for being here tonight.

As far as the amount needed we have to 
experiment.  Everyone is different and what works for 
some may not work as well for others, so the dosage 
must be increased.  You should start out slowly and 
increase it gradually until testing and symptoms show 
changes.


Dearest:	Thanks, Julia Elliott... give us an example of 
what you take daily in the way of soy and other 
phytoestrogens, ok?


Julia Elliott: Elliott:	I consume a cup of soybeans a day in 
my daily meals via the whole soybean used in the 
recipes I already make.  For instance, veggie chili is 
modified with soybeans in place of or along with the 
kidney beans. 


Dearest:	I use mostly tofu, Julia Elliott, I'd imagine 
most women do.  What do you think?


Julia Elliott: 	Dear, tofu is a good way to get the 
properties, and it is a great source of calcium. Some 
do get reactions to the properties that tofu is 
processed with, but tofu is a great way to add it to 
your diet.


Dearest:	Yes, I've heard that. Thanks, Julia Elliott.
Norlee, go ahead, please :)


Norlee:	Where can we get whole soybeans? 


Julia Elliott:	Nor, you can get them at your health 
food stores - right out of the bin.


Dearest:	Red, go ahead, please :)


Redfencer:	How long for results to show?  weeks?
months?  :)

 
Julia Elliott:	They vary.  Mine showed a difference in 
symptoms in a week and a half.  The tests showed a 
difference at my next regular 6 month trip to the Dr.'s 
office.   I knew what he was going to say because the 
symptoms had already improved.

 
Dearest:	Terrific, Julia. Thanks...


Dearest:	Joan, go ahead :)


Joan5000:	How about Chinese food, soy sauce, etc?


Julia Elliott:	Joan there are no values in the soy sauce, 
too much MSG, and too over processed.  But a great
flavor enhancer if you use the non MSG and low 
sodium type.


Joan5000:	I was afraid of that, thanks.


Dearest:	Thanks, Julia.  Pazz, go ahead, please.


Pazzeria:	Cant find whole soybeans in bin, found
packaged ones is that ok?  They look tan, is that right?


Julia Elliott:	Paz :) The packaged ones are ok, but
test them for freshness.  Talk to the clerk and try to find 
the origin of them and when they were shipped.  

	Yes they are tan in color.  If they are firm to
the feel and there isn't a lot of dust residue present, 
then they should be ok.


Pazzeria:	They are firm alright, thanks.


Dearest:	Julia, share with us the best sources of 
soy - e.g.,  tofu, miso, etc. Thanks.


Julia Elliott:	Dear, there are many sources of soy out
there, like the ones you you mention.  But I prefer the 
WHOLE soybean, so I don't have to guess at the
properties, and know what I am consuming - as far 
as the additives and the preservatives that go into making 
some of these foods.


Dearest:	What sort of negative side effects have women 
complained about from tofu? (other than that it has no taste)


Julia Elliott:	I have heard that some have experienced 
a rash or hives.  That is mainly because of of the 
processing agents used in making tofu.  Some have a 
reaction to the calcium based processing used in tofu.


Dearest:	Thanks, Julia... Catalina, go ahead, 
please :)


Catalina5:	What tests for estrogen are you talking 
about?  Estradiol?


Julia Elliott:	Hi Cat :) I am talking about TOTAL 
Estrogen here.


Catalina5:	Are  phytoestrogens tested ?


Julia Elliott:	Haven't seen that test yet but, the 
reading for the Estrogen will reflect the estrogen present, 
whether it be synthetic or plant form of estrogen.


Dearest:	Julia, how do soy and phytoestrogens 
effect the progesterone levels in our bodies?


Julia Elliott:	Dear,  phytoestrogens are a plant form 
of estrogen that mimic estrogen. They go to the many 
estrogen receptors in our bodies that are void of 
estrogen and replace it, naturally without the side 
effects that are associated with the synthetics.


Dearest:	Thank you, Julia..... Dgordon, go 
ahead with your question, please.


Dgordon97:	What symptoms were relieved? does 
it help mood swings?


Julia Elliott:	Dg, it relieves many of the meno 
symptoms, including mood swings hot flashes, head 
aches, weight gain, water retention and more.


Dearest:	Julia, any thoughts on women on 
HRT also using phytoestrogens?


Julia Elliott: 	Dear, there are some that are successful 
in using soy when trying to wean one off of the synthetic
form, but I have not heard too much on this subject 
other than one particular case - a woman who is doing 
a personal case study herself. 
	 I did not want to go this route, because I 
wanted a true reading of my levels when I approached 
soy.  I wanted to know where I really stood before 
adding the soy gradually and watching the results.  If you 
are using both HRT and phytoestrogens, you do not 
have the element of true readings, and this is important 
in charting the results you want to achieve when 
applying the natural source.


Dearest:	Thanks, Julia. You're such a barrel of 
information :)


Julia Elliott:	:)


Dearest:	KateD, go ahead :)


KateD:		If I add soy to my home cooking, what's 
it going to do to my husband?  LOL  


Dearest:	heh


Julia Elliott:	Kate, it will protect him from Alzheimers 
disease, Kidney disease, PROSTATE disease and
heart disease.  

 
Dearest:	Julia, what about the non-believers?  
Why do you suppose they're so resistant to natural
things like soy and other forms of phytoestrogens?
You've certainly met enough of them :(


Julia Elliott:	Dear, I have met up with suppression in 
this area, mainly from the industries, such as the drug
industry.  Can you imagine the impact it would have if 
everyone found out that $ .85 a week may be able to 
prevent and possibly cure the health issues that we are
discussing here?  
		Some are just not up to date others don't 
want to be. But it is a choice that women should express.  
It is our bodies, and if there is a natural way to alleviate 
these problems then we should have the support of the 
Dr's and the industries that are involved here, not
suppression.


Dearest:	Guess they only see us baby boomers 
as dollar signs, Julia Elliott:  :(  


Julia Elliott:	Dear, this is a major FACT!!


Dearest:	SAS, go ahead, please :)


SASCREAT:	Any benefit from using soy granules - 
making cookies, sprinkle on yogurt, etc.


Julia Elliott:	Sas, yes anywhere you use soy there is 
an improvement.  You do have to define your needs 
and use accordingly.


Dearest:	RCH, go ahead, please :)


RCHCTH:	Testing via blood test, saliva test or how? 


Julia Elliott:	RCHC, testing via blood work.  I choose
this method because it is the method that has been used 
since I began.  I approached my Dr. about the saliva 
testing, and was told that it was a good test but, being that 
I have been doing the blood work all along that we should
stick with it.


Dearest:	Catalina, go ahead, please.


Catalina5:	My confusion is about the tests.  How 
accurate are blood tests?  I do not know of saliva tests 
for estrogen other than estradiol. 


Julia Elliott:	Cat, the blood tests have been 
consistent for me for years.  Saliva testing is relatively 
new, but so far it holds promise.


Dearest:	Pazz, go ahead.


Pazzeria:	Why don't makers of soy products 
promote them like pharmaceutical companies promote 
estrogen?  Why don't these companies promote how 
good products are for you?


Julia Elliott:	Paz, good question, mainly because they 
are still exploring the many areas of health that it affects, 
and it may be a year or two before conclusive results are 
in.  There are some even on the web site that offer many 
studies that inform us of the benefits, and symposiums 
that I personally follow that inform us of these things, 
but I guess they are of a different world, one that is 
not jumping on the band wagon to make a buck. They
want to be thorough and concise and sure with 
evidence supporting these issues.


Pazzeria:	thanks julia


Dearest:	Thanks, Julia.. excellent answers as 
always :)  Red, go ahead :)


Redfencer:	Will using phytoestrogens help if you 
are perimenopausal? 


Julia Elliott:	Red, yes it will.  First it will possibly offer 
you protection from breast cancer, and it will help gain 
a balance of the hormones.


Dearest:	Ld2552, go ahead, please :)


Ld2552:	I have heard eating a lot of tofu 
(everyday) causes yeast infections. Is this true? thanks.


Julia Elliott:	LD, too much of anything is not good.  
First, have this evaluated by your Dr., and see if there is 
not another problem here then check out the rest of 
your diet and see that it is balanced.   Tofu itself may not 
be the culprit, but I am not a Dr. and cannot really 
answer that. But, I understand that yogurt, eaten daily, 
with live cultures will, help combat the yeast infections. 


Dearest:	MarSea, go ahead :)


MarSea249:	Just recently discovered soy beans 
sold frozen in the Japanese store.  Is this the soy bean 
that you are speaking about?  They kinda look like 
peas in a pod and are so delicious.


Julia Elliott:	Mar, they may have some value, but 
my area of knowledge lies in the dried soybeans, I 
cannot tell you the values present in a product that has 
been processed.  I do not know what agents were 
used, but freezing, I understand, does not affect the
properties greatly.


MarSea249:	Thanks


Dearest:	PAV, go ahead with your question for 
Julia Elliott, our soy source :)


PAVinson:	I was on Estrace and diagnosed with
breast cancer in Feb., had surgery and radiation 
treatments.  Tumor was estrogen receptor positive -- 
on Tamoxifen -- is it safe for me to use phytoestrogens? 


Julia Elliott:	PA, Genistein, which is a compound 
found in the soybean, closely resembles Tamoxifen, but 
it does not have the side effects.  Tamoxifen cannot be 
used for more than 5 yrs. Soy can be consumed forever.  
The structures are similar, they are often called "cousins".  
But, I would not use both, I would check with your Dr., 
and ask his opinion. Again, you are mixing two worlds, 
how are you going to tell which one is working?  
	The local Cancer foundation director is 
encouraging his cancer patients to use soy in their diets, 
to go along with the prescribed treatment. The National 
Cancer Institute is presently working on using the 
genistein found in soy as a cancer drug.  These tests are 
not conclusive yet, so I can't really tell you to use one 
over the other.


Dearest:	Fascinating... thank you, Julia.


PAVinson:	Thanks, Julia -- always check with 
oncologist before I take anything!!


Julia Elliott:	PA, check with your Dr. whether 
ONC or other


Dearest:	Best of health to you, Pav :)


PAVinson:	:)


Dearest:	Catalina, go ahead :)


Catalina5:	Have you ever made roasted soybeans 
(or soynuts)?


Dearest:	o/~ Soybeans roasting on an open fire o/~


Dearest:	o/~ Tofu nipping at your nose ( g )


Julia Elliott:	Cat, yes I have, I use the cooked 
soybeans, spread them on a cookie sheet add my 
favorite flavorings and bake - shaking them every so 
often til a golden brown... and of course we could use Dear's 
method.   LOL 


Dearest:	Haha!


Catalina5:	Right dearest. ( grin.)


Julia Elliott:	Nipping ?


Julia Elliott:	LOL


Dearest:	Yeah, nipping.. whatever.	( g )


Pazzeria:	love your humor Dear!


Dearest:	Erica, go ahead :)


EPiontek:	What is the relationship of soy to cancer? 
Is it used as a cancer treatment?  What kinds of cancer? 
or just cancer in general? 


Julia Elliott:	EP, soy has been used lately to help treat 
and prevent cancer  Genistein has the ability to seek out
cancerous tumor cells and envelope them, preventing the 
ability to thrive by starving them via the blockage of 
capillary growth. The cell then eventually returns to 
normal.  The cancers involved here are breast, 
endometrial


THRV Dear:	Ms Lizzie, please ask your question 


MsLizzieB:	I came in late tonight, but I have read 
lately that the phytoestrogens in soy and other
plants are too weak to do much good.  Your opinion?


Julia Elliott:	MSL, just recently there was a news 
bulletin regarding the fact that low doses of estrogen 
(HRT) is successful in protecting women from 
menopausal problems.  What we have in soy is the weak 
estrogen, which apparently, judging from this news clip, 
is enough to offer us the protection we need from the 
usual affects of menopause.


MsLizzieB:	That's good news. Thank you.


Julia Elliott:	You are welcome MS


Dearest:	Sure is :)  TZ, go ahead, please :)


TZvia1:	I want to thank you Julia and Dearest for 
introducing me to soy. It has been very helpful.


Julia Elliott:	You are welcome TZ :)


Pazzeria:	applause


Dearest:	You certainly are, TZ...


Julia Elliott:	::bowing::


TZvia1:	Just be careful how you use it.  My 14 
year old has been enjoying smoothies every day and 
now her period is a week late.   LOL


Dearest:	Uh oh, TZ


Julia Elliott:	TZ, have her checked by the Dr. soon!!  
It should not do anything but create a balance for her, 
TZ.


TZvia1:	Than maybe it's because she's only 14.  
I'm not concerned.


Dearest:	Erica, go ahead :)


EPiontek:	How long have they known about the 
use of soy to treat/prevent cancer? Is this a recent 
finding? 


Julia Elliott:	EP, they have been testing for a while,
in this area, and have more to explore.  It is not a new 
issue, it is ongoing.


EPiontek:	How long is a while? the last 5-10 years?


Julia Elliott:	EP, don't know for sure, but go to the 
web - there must be some site that can offer you the 
actual amount of years.


EPiontek:	ok thanks Jelliot.


Julia Elliott:	You are welcome, if you need more info 
or a web site, email me.


Dearest:	EP (Erica), why the focus on cancer 
tonight?  Wassup?


EPiontek:	Dearest, it just kinda piqued my interest 
when she said that soy had been used to treat cancer.  
My mom died of breast cancer you know, and I was just 
wondering how long they've known about soy as a cancer
prevention measure/treatment.


Dearest:	Sorry, Erica :(


Julia Elliott:	EP, I am so sorry.  It still hurts.  Too 
bad we didn't tell her about soy :(   We knew back 
then, just didn't have it fine tuned enough


EPiontek:	Tell me about it.  Don't know if it would
have helped her though, the cancer had already spread 
when they caught it.


Julia Elliott:	Might have been to late for anything at 
that point.


Dearest:	{{{{ Erica }}}}}


EPiontek:	thanks {{{{Dearest}}}}


Dearest:	Lizzie, go ahead, please.


MsLizzieB:	How long after eating soy, do the 
phytoestrogen effects last in the body? A day? Less? 
More?


Julia Elliott:	Ms I do know that if I skip the soybeans, 
for a week, that's ok , things happen... it's been almost 
4 years   I see the effects right away.  Don't know how 
long they stay everyone's metabolism is different, so it is 
an individual thing. 


Dearest:	KateD, go ahead, please.


KateD:		Who actually is doing the "testing".
Anyone National and respected? 


Julia Elliott:	National Cancer Institute for one.  Many 
other scientists and Universities as well


Dearest:	Leseetsa, go ahead :)


Leseetsa:	If you eat low fat tofu, is the 
phytoestrogenic effect lessened?


Julia Elliott:	Hi Enid :) The properties are a bit 
effected, don't think it is that much to worry about 
though.  I would think it is a good choice.


Dearest:	Lizzie, go ahead.


MsLizzieB:	What effects do you notice, if you skip 
the soy for a week? How can you tell in your body?


Dearest:	It gets SOY weak!  :(


MsLizzieB:	heheheh


Julia Elliott:	Ms, my family for one :) and... I have 
these 2 pesky little coarse hairs that appear on my chin. 
When I see them, then I know that the balance is off.  I 
conducted my own reverse study a while back and 
stopped for a week an a half and then went in for testing. 
The levels were in the cellar and with that I resumed and 
within a week, everything was ok.  


Dearest:	Interesting.  Even when I eat tons of 
soy/tofu, and take my Genistein and isoflavones, I still 
have those pesky little hairs :(


Julia Elliott:	Darn those things, some women have 
them no matter what they are on even the synthetic
form of HRT.  It may have something to do with their 
individual make-up.


Dearest:	I swear, I should buy stock in a tweezer 
company :(  Ugh!


Julia Elliott:	LOL  Dear, all of us should!!


Dearest:	DLLACY, go ahead.


DLLACY45:	I have **kidney** problems would the 
soy help. I really hurt.  Where do i get it?

 
Julia Elliott:	DL, when you apply soy to your diet 
instead of animal protein you are saving wear and tear 
on your kidneys. They are overtaxed after consuming 
a meal high in animal protein.  When you consume a 
meal high in soy protein, they have a much easier job, 
offering you a health benefit that you may be looking 
for in your later years as well. 


Dearest:	Blush, go ahead :)


THRV Blush:	Any studies on the effects of soy and
those pesky hairs? LOL  I'll try ANYTHING!


Julia Elliott:	Blush!!  LOL


Dearest:	Forget Tweezer Man (he's as useful 
as Safety Man)


THRV Blush:	chin replacement???


Pazzeria:	LOL


Julia Elliott:	I do believe that is in the area of study 
regarding the estrogen sites that are deficient of estrogen.  
When this takes place the male hormones rush in to fill 
this void, resulting in male characteristics, such as these.


THRV Blush:	YES...my testosterone level is high


Julia Elliott:	This is an indication blush -- have to have 
a balance.


Dearest:	<~~ only male characteristic she wants 
is  Tom Selleck's "Y" chromosomes sitting next to her
"X" chromosomes :)  


THRV Blush:	ROFL 


Julia Elliott:	I hear that


PAVinson:	LOL Dearest


Norlee:	(LOL)


MSilli1698:	amen


Dearest:	Julia , thanks so much for joining us
in Power Surge tonight and sharing your expertise in 
the area of soy and phytoestrogens. Anyone interested in
purchasing Julia Elliott's wonderful "With A Little Help From The Soybean"
can do so at amazon.com.


Thanks, again, 	Julia Elliott:... and we do hope you'll return to
Power Surge again very soon.


Julia Elliott:	I want to thank you Dear, and everyone 
here tonight!!


Dearest:	Let's all show our appreciation to
Julia for fielding all our questions tonight :)


Julia Elliott:	You were all so wonderful!!!


PAVinson:	clap clap clap clap!!!!!!!!


Pazzeria: 	APPLAUSE


Redfencer:	Thanks Julia!!  {{{}}}


Cdgee4:   	Thanks Julia, great information:)


SGETT:     	{S applause


Dearest:	{S applause


MsLizzieB:	Thank you very much!


PAVinson:	Thanks Julia


TZvia1:	Thank You Julia 


Ld2552:	thanks


WINDOCK1:	Thanks, Julia


LORACURA:	{S applause


THRV Blush:	{S applause


RCHCTH:	thank you so much


Catalina5:	thanks very much, Julia


ANGELnMASS:	Thanks


Pazzeria:	EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE


Julia Elliott:	::bowing gracefully::


Dearest:	 {S applesauce  


MSilli1698:	thanks


DLLACY45:	Thanks


Norlee:	{S applause


Dearest:	Excellent, as usual, Julia Elliott!!


Esirrah:	Thank You!


Julia Elliott:	Accepting the roses  LOL


Julia Elliott:	Thanks dear you and your team did 
a great job too.


EPiontek:	very interesting chat


Dearest:	Julia Elliott, thanks so much... so very informative :)


Julia Elliott:	Goodnight everyone!!!


Dearest:	Night, Julia :) Thanks, again 


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